Back to smooth bore

[Pagrizz]

I was talking to one of my township officals and he said he has been reading how far these new slugs and blackpowder guns can shoot.He had Hornady's ad about 200 yard slugs and T/C Encore ad about shooting 200 yards. He said these guns were being talked about at the meetings because this was a shotgun area and they did not want guns shooting that far.I do not know how many other townships are looking into to this, but we could be back to smooth bore and flintlocks

[David599]

Are these elected officials Cavemen?

Range of the projectile and accuracy of the projectile are two different subjects.

A slug fired out of a smoothbore shotgun will go as far as a rifled barrel. The rifling makes the projectile spin, providing better accuracy.

If its the range of the projectile they are trying to control, not sure that this will help much. Of course it will make accuracy less good, and more deer will probably be wounded or lost.

I think the ads they are talking about refer to the “capability” of taking longer shots, as more accuracy means they can hit the deer in the vitals at those ranges.

You mention smoothbore – and then mentioned flintlocks. What does the type of ignition have to do with the rifling or lack of rifling. Does a cap lock with 100 grains of powder shoot further than a flintlock with 100 grains of powder????

The last think I want in the woods is guys shooting accurate guns…

[Pagrizz]

I agree with every thing you said ,but you never saw Remington ads on how far their old rifled slugs could go or T/C showing taking game at 200 yards or farther with the flintlocks .It's not that these news guns go farther it's that these companies are putting ads out about it and these people moving in to the areas are seeing them.These are the people that are getting on the township boards.Flintlocks were brought up because most of these people do not know what caplock's are.I have flints and caplocks and know what they can do,but the people moving in do not .

[Snipermike]

I shoot the Hornady 12g 300 gr. SST slug. If you look at them yes they are traveling at 2000 fps, but it you further look at them they drop 6.7 inches at 200 yards. Its nice to finally have a velocity at this rate, but it still shows they drop a good amount at 200 yards. So the bullet is dropping fast and I dont see a big problem with it. If we compare that to the Winchester sabot it drops 4.6 inches at 125 yards, however it is coming out at 1350 fps. The Winchester is based off of a 2 3/4, 1oz slug. I have shot both and have killed plenty of deer with both. What I want to say is it will stink if we have to go back down but if we go back to the older sabots or slugs it just wont be much of a impact death, however with the sabot or slug you will put a bigger hole in them and sometimes it does more damage. I have had plenty of heart shots with the hornady's and still had them go 75 yards at time because it was a clean through and through shot. Most of our shots are close where I live in bucks. I wont take anything over 50 yards and to be honest most are around 20 yards. Hopefully nothing will change but if something does I still think we will be ok.
-Mike

[BarnesX.308]

You mention smoothbore – and then mentioned flintlocks. What does the type of ignition have to do with the rifling or lack of rifling. Does a cap lock with 100 grains of powder shoot further than a flintlock with 100 grains of powder????


I'm assuming we're talking about 90 grains of FFg behind a patched round ball as opposed to 150 grains of Pyrodex behind a saboted spitzer.