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Big Game Cameraman
03-04-2011, 05:33 PM
I've been a contributor on The Buck Barn for the last year or so, and I was its very first advertiser. Recently, in a phone conversation, Ron Reddington, creator of The Buck Barn and The Bass Barn, encouraged me to re-start my "Spring Turkey Tip of the Week" posts.

I'm not a professional journalist, but I've got a lot to say about turkey hunting. I've been fortunate to film turkey hunts for 21 years, from Florida to Montana and everywhere in between. I've had over 400 encounters with mature gobblers; many have turned out well, a few have been complete disasters, the rest have been somewhere in between. One way or another, I've learned some ups and downs of this wild and crazy sport. Maybe some of my experiences can help Buck Barners who are new to the sport.

In my opinion, the eastern turkey is the most difficult to hunt successfully, due to heavy hunting pressure. Some of my tips and tactics may help you to outwit that wily old tom in the Spring of 2011. For the next few months, I'll be posting tips here on a regular basis.

Spring Turkey Tip of the Week

How to find that bombshell property

[Note: Part 1 of a 2 part posting, Part 2 will follow next week]

Six times each year, I participate as an exhibitor in hunting expos in locations from New York to Virginia, where I sell m DVDs, deer lure, and custom turkey calls. The biggest problem hunters tell me about is that they have nowhere to hunt turkey. While many Buckbarners have access to private or public land where they can hunt successfully, many others are less fortunate. My aim in this 2-part posting is to put together a formula which any hunter can use to find that new turkey sanctuary to call his or her own.

To be a successful turkey hunter, first you have to locate the birds, late winter is a great time of year to drive around scouting out turkey rich areas. You don't need a 150 acre farm to be a successful turkey hunter, face it somebody else probably already has that plot of land staked out for themselves. I've had great success filming turkey hunts on public land usually the first and last week are best for me. In many cases mid-season the gobblers are pressed to hard by many hunters, they can become tight-lipped and difficult to locate.

The last few years I've concentrated on smaller tracks of land, anywhere from 2 1/2 to 20 acres. Try to recruit these smaller parcels of land I find they can be real honeyholes where a mature longbeard can die of old age, a place where the average slippery old turkey hunter may overlook. My message should be clear, how bad do you Buckbarners want it?

March is the ideal time to do your scouting. Try to get some distance away from any big cities and thier suburbs. You hunters from South Jersey, if you're frustrated by the number of competing hunters in your area, try going northwest. The northwestern corner of NJ, from newton north toward Port Jervis is rolling mountains and open country- great turkey habitat, with fewer people trying to hunt it. Hunters in southeastern Pennsylvania, your home state is big and chock full of turkeys; try to get into the country north of the Poconos, which has good terrain and less hunting pressure.

Always make your trip on a bright, sunny day. Mornings are best. In country such as I've described, on a nice early-Spring day, it will seem as though every open field has signs of gobbler activity. All the toms will be out strutting and displaying for the hens. You'll need a good pair of binoculars, and a pad and pencil to take notes about various locations: what town or township or county you're in, road names(or numbers), crossroads, property addresses, landmarks, or distinguishing buildings etc. Make a day out of it, bring a hunting partner to take turns with the driving, your aim is to gather good turkey information.

In part 2 of this Spring turkey tip, which I'll post next week, I'll give you some advice on how to approach landowners for gaining access to hunt their land--techniques which have worked well for me for over 20 years.

Another thing you should look into before planning a scouting trip is Pennsylvania or NewJerseys Game Commission Spring turkey harvest report and county maps. You can find these maps along with turkey reports per county online.

Nobody said it was going to be easy, it takes some effort to do the scouting, maintain good relations with landowners, if you're willing to do the late-winter work, you may just bag the trophy of a lifetime. Gobble-Gobble.

Keep the tradition alive, bring a youngster hunting!

lady outdoors
03-04-2011, 08:05 PM
Hey big game,
thanks for the tip. My boyfriend and I feel like knocking on every property in Bradford county asking for permission. sounds like fun! Want to learn more. I have one question.. when you say "on public land" why do you only have success the first and last week? just curious.

Big Game Cameraman
03-04-2011, 08:20 PM
hey lady outdoors,

People that hunt public land or state game land, or whatever you like to call it, are usually pretty sharp turkey hunters. Their positioning is good, the calling is convincing, they've harvested birds there in the past. Usually after the first week, the gobblers can become educated.

In mid may the weather starts getting warmer, maybe people do yard work or open up their pools. Some hunters just think its too tough and quit and think "ill get him next year." Usually on public land in the last week, the hens walk off and the gobblers become desperate. Their willing to play the game.

So I think your chances are better within the first week, and again in the last week of the season on public land. (just my opinion)

robhunt
03-04-2011, 08:50 PM
First week they are not used to hunters yet

Second week the big toms will do anything to get the hens. The best thing to do this week is use a hen and a Jake. That gobbler will RUN in!!

AllDayAngler
03-06-2011, 01:41 PM
interesting tips, never looked at it like that. looking forward to part two!:) gotta avoid hunting pressure.

Ron Redington
03-06-2011, 07:25 PM
- Pete, Good stuff! I appreciate you taking the time to share your knowledge with our community! Very well done & very much appreciated!

Thank you :thup:

-Barners, Pete spends a ton of time in the woods filming hunts with his HD video recorder. The majority of his hunts are filmed right here in the Delaware valley. For those of you who haven't done so already, please take a moment to visit his website (http://www.sportsmenschoicegamecalls.com/index.php).

I highly recommend his latest latest video - The Sweet Smell And Sound Of Success. This DVD features 23 successful hunts in Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Mississippi, and Virginia. 13 whitetail deer and 10 turkey hunts [both spring and fall] :)

http://www.sportsmenschoicegamecalls.com/images/dvd-sweet-smell.jpg

ridgerunnerron
03-06-2011, 09:25 PM
I had some tough times with Osceolas over the years. In my mind they're right up there with the easterns or at times harder.

Some Fl hunts were tough because of the high water that I had to deal with. And with high predator numbers they seemed to be more nervous at times. Also less gobbling you here once the day gets hot which can be early on a lot of mornings.

But I have to try Oscolas with the bow next March. :fight:

Big Game Cameraman
03-07-2011, 04:08 AM
The oscolas turkey is alot of fun to hunt but hard to locate property to hunt them. The month of March in Florida is usually a great time. I've been there three times. It worked out great two of those times, but the third was a disaster. The Florida bird is a hard gobbling turkey.

In hunting the oscolas, there's a lot of competition between the hens. Harvesting a mature bird with a bow can be great fun, but it can be a real challenge.

I'd like to be over your shoulder with my camera when the moment of truth happens!

ridgerunnerron
03-07-2011, 10:49 AM
The oscolas turkey is alot of fun to hunt but hard to locate property to hunt them. The month of March in Florida is usually a great time. I've been there three times. It worked out great two of those times, but the third was a disaster. The Florida bird is a hard gobbling turkey.

In hunting the oscolas, there's a lot of competition between the hens. Harvesting a mature bird with a bow can be great fun, but it can be a real challenge.

I'd like to be over your shoulder with my camera when the moment of truth happens!


I have shot 12 with the shotgun, so that's enuff for me. So next year I will be going with the bow only.

Tenpointrack
03-07-2011, 07:57 PM
Cameraman,

A great write up and great advice as always! Like anything you do in life whether it be work or pleasure, those who strive to be the best and work hard at it...are usually the ones that over achieve so your question "how bad do we want it" I think that sums it up nicely. Thankfully not everyone wants it as bad as others or all the good spots would be taken :-) but those who have the courage to stretch out of their comfort zone and start knocking on doors, will be greatly rewarded with one of the prime pieces you stated above. Really no different than whitetail deer if you think about...the big boys hide in small patches some no bigger then a hedgerow becuase they are safe and feel no pressure. You don't need a lot of land just the right land. Not even the greatest hunter alive can kill a trophy animal if the land they hunt doesn't have any trophies lurking.

Keep the tips coming and good luck out there this year!

lampe
03-09-2011, 05:02 AM
hey cameraman great tip
every year around this time I go out and check on my turkey spots to see how the flock is. my spots on state property i found that hunters are calling to the birds before the season trying to locate them but they are really educating them making the hunting season hard to get that big tom.
when you knock on doors whats your approach??? the doors i knock on close fast no one wants hunting on their property lawsuits etc. any tips on how to get onto a property?:confused:

Big Game Cameraman
03-09-2011, 10:36 AM
hey mr lampe I posted many threads last year about never false call to the wild turkey. it can be a real big problem if the birds hear to much calling before the start of the season . my tip later this week should help new comers to the sports of turkey hunting. build confidence to ask a landowner to hunt there piece.

Tenpointrack
03-09-2011, 12:35 PM
Practice overcoming objections...be prepared to confidently and politely overcome any concerns they have. If you hesitate or become unnerved you will lose the confidence of the person you are talking to. Make sure you carry insurance and if you don't have it...you should apply for it. It will be a huge determing factor in a lot of cases and eases the minds of those who allow us to carry weapons and climb trees on their property.

AllDayAngler
03-09-2011, 12:53 PM
hey tenpointrack, you are deep in your thoughts. Love it, keep em comin.