View Full Version : anyone bait for turkeys?
grtwhthunter/fisherman
02-15-2011, 11:11 AM
anyone ? im gonna this yr in a piece i have picked out.here in williamstown its tough finding a field or any open spots to hit after first 2 days of first week.i see guys driving around scouting the fields like 9am as i am also if early spot doesnt payoff. i see the same guys every where i go lol.so im gonna try to make my own spot not so obvious. anyone ever try it?:)
R & R
02-15-2011, 11:51 AM
Just go buy one at the store. Its about tricking the bird to come to you not just throwing one over your shoulder.
Topneck
02-15-2011, 11:53 AM
1. Hunting hours are 1/2 hour before sunrise to 12 noon.
2. Hunter orange is not required for spring or fall turkey hunting.
3. One male wild turkey may be taken per permit, BUT only one
bird may be taken in a given day. Bearded hens may not be
taken.
4. All hunters are required to possess a calling device while turkey
hunting. Electronic callers are not permitted.
5. The use of dogs is prohibited during the spring season.
6. Live decoys and electronically operated decoys may not be used
to hunt turkeys, but artificial decoys are permissible.
7. No shot larger than number 4 fine shot or smaller than number
71/2 fine shot may be used.
8. No shotgun larger than 10 gauge or smaller than 20 gauge may
be used.
9. When hunting wild turkey with bow, all arrows must be fitted
with an edged head of the following specifications:
* minimum width 3/4"
*Cutting edges must be of well-sharpen metal only.
10. All bows, except compounds and crossbows, must have a minimum
draw pull weight of 35 pounds at the archer’s draw length.
Compound bows must have a minimum peak weight of 35
pounds. Crossbows must have a minimum draw pull weight of
75 pounds.
11. A hunter may not stalk or attempt to take a wild turkey by
sneaking up on the bird.
12. Driving or chasing turkeys to put them in range of other hunters
is prohibited.
13. Turkey hunting groups are limited to five hunters.
14. Wild turkeys may not be hunted within 300 feet of bait.
ub1243
02-15-2011, 12:02 PM
i had to double take this thread.
can't hunt over the golden pile for turkey.:naughty:
w8n4adeer
02-15-2011, 01:09 PM
not a good idea
bmarsh625
02-15-2011, 01:31 PM
It works great for ducks too .......... give it a try
:)
robhunt
02-15-2011, 02:40 PM
Pretty sure that's 100% illegal here in nj!!!
DONT do it!!
Wardens look for.....
People stalking
Baiting
USING buck shot
I got stopped last year the first thing he wanted to see was my shells
grtwhthunter/fisherman
02-15-2011, 06:41 PM
read rule 14 it is not illegal to bait. youre not allowed to hunt within 300 ft of baited area fellas. the bait is to only hold them in the area 3-4 hundred yrds .if you thought it out as i did. i know of a place with a long narrow opening with lets say a road at the end. in fact there may even b towers there.hhmmmm.so the corn is near the road wwwaaaaayyyy far from set up, but they know its there . the hens will come to it . object is to (for u rnr) call in a tom! in the area as he knows hens hang out there .there is no hunting near the bait at all and is legal. ive gotten a bird every yr so far without but like mentioned spots r gettin tough to find. every spot i did get a bird seems someone beats me there following yr.and for record i dont hunt illegal in anyform no need to. i knew id get slack lmao.also it is for t
grtwhthunter/fisherman
02-15-2011, 06:42 PM
read rule 14 it is not illegal to bait. youre not allowed to hunt within 300 ft of baited area fellas. the bait is to only hold them in the area 3-4 hundred yrds .if you thought it out as i did. i know of a place with a long narrow opening with lets say a road at the end. in fact there may even b towers there.hhmmmm.so the corn is near the road wwwaaaaayyyy far from set up, but they know its there . the hens will come to it . object is to (for u rnr) call in a tom! in the area as he knows hens hang out there .there is no hunting near the bait at all and is legal. ive gotten a bird every yr so far without but like mentioned spots r gettin tough to find. every spot i did get a bird seems someone beats me there following yr.and for record i dont hunt illegal in anyform no need to. i knew id get slack lmao.also it is for later weeks when they r hunted hard. again lol:D:p.
robhunt
02-15-2011, 06:45 PM
Ok but you better be 300 ft on the dot!! And your toes better not cross that line or you will be in trouble if caught.
Best of luck
grtwhthunter/fisherman
02-15-2011, 07:11 PM
robhunt i know all about it lol.if you saw the set up youd want in.lol ill b 400 ft .:D
njbowhunter
02-15-2011, 07:20 PM
Are you going to be baiting on public ground. I am guessing your talking the power lines. If so and its in winslow could you please tell me where your bait pile will be. I dont want get in trouble for hunting someone elses bait pile that I didnt even know was there.
robhunt
02-15-2011, 07:38 PM
X2 because that is my "area" to
Shoot me an email of your basic location there are several Winslow areas just let me know which one
Topneck
02-15-2011, 07:40 PM
http://www.magiclanterngraphics.com/lenny_the_turkey_eating_corn_lg_clr.gif
robhunt
02-15-2011, 07:49 PM
Hahaha you should of put a person 301 ft away under a tree lol!!
Topneck
02-15-2011, 08:01 PM
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robhunt
02-15-2011, 08:04 PM
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300ft
w8n4adeer
02-15-2011, 09:23 PM
njbowhunter im sure anyone would be pissed if they got fined cause they were hunting next to someones bait and didn't know it. i don't think its very curtious to do unless you are on private ground. i know when people bait ducks and the wardens find it they close off the whole area and it ruins the hunting for everybody. like i said earlier its just not a good idea
R & R
02-15-2011, 10:25 PM
I'll say it again, If you have to bait go but a turkey from ACME. Thats not what turkey hunting is about. bIts not like yu are tring to feed your family with the 4lbs of breast meat.
Its very sad that we are even having this post.
grtwhthunter/fisherman
02-16-2011, 07:55 AM
dont have to bait but gonna bait an area .and thats it .lol. and if u dont like it tough poopy.lol.:Di will get 2 one near pile one natural spot gauranteed.i hope lol.only problem will b keeping dam deer away from pile lmao. ya know the deer that were baited all yr .:D
R & R
02-16-2011, 08:00 AM
maybe you can hit one with your car too
Buck Tales
02-16-2011, 08:42 AM
MAN I'M PISSED! :fight:Why didn't I think of that first? If I run them down with the truck I can get more than 1 and the police will give me free tags as road kill for each. Why have I been wasting all my time in the woods to begin with? :nuts: LMAO!!!!:razz::wave:
freedom
02-16-2011, 10:13 AM
shooot we call that heater huntin,the heaters on high, don't fargot yourn 6 pack of beer:D
you can always bait brfore season after they eat it up they'll still come to check that area.
2each his own
lampe
02-16-2011, 11:47 AM
x3 im in that area as well
robhunt
02-16-2011, 02:36 PM
Spray the pile with deer repelent. Won't bother the turkeys
Darrin Greene
02-16-2011, 06:42 PM
you guys all go out and bait deer and half of you did it before it was legal!
Ole 20 Point
02-16-2011, 08:55 PM
Aw now that's just down right mean spirited...:fight:
R & R
02-16-2011, 09:27 PM
you guys all go out and bait deer and half of you did it before it was legal! baiting deer was never illegal. Put a 100lbs doe in the freezer is a lot different then 3lbs of turkey breast
robhunt
02-16-2011, 09:51 PM
You people are so harsh. All he asked is if anybody else does it and how it works. There are many different kinds if hunting. He is only doing it to keep the birds there. You still have to call the bird and hope he does not back out. So calm down a bit it is still hunting, just a different approach
bmarsh625
02-16-2011, 10:15 PM
I wonder if these guys with all the ethics shoot spikes and forked horns..................... hmmmmmm
Dirty Jersey
robhunt
02-16-2011, 10:34 PM
In my book if it's got horns it's down!! But they have to be over the ears.
It's still a buck just remember the famous words......
You can't eat the horns!!
It's about the meat not all the bone in the head.
grtwhthunter/fisherman
02-17-2011, 08:14 AM
see good thread most responses on a thread in a week. lol. as for u guys who think you know where im talkin about. if it were power lines so to say .Did you know those power lines go clean across the state of nj. theres miles of them. but ill help you guys out ill beep my horn at the spot i bait so you can help surround the place.:D 4lbs of meat is better than zero lbs of meat and i plan on having 8 lbs of meat. also i use whole bird. its a disgrace for u to only take the breast .......:)
bluecollar$
02-17-2011, 10:57 AM
I really don't think it work well anyway.
But for guys to even question you is crazy, the same guys carry 10k lbs of corn and potatoes into the woods to "fool" deer... bunch of hypocrites..
Darrin Greene
02-17-2011, 09:27 PM
baiting deer was never illegal. Put a 100lbs doe in the freezer is a lot different then 3lbs of turkey breast
baiting turkeys ain't illegal either
btw I hunted deer with a bow for 25 years and never carried a piece of bait one time
that's not what deer hunting is all about
to each thier own within the regs.
leave the dude alone
robhunt
02-17-2011, 11:53 PM
Preach it darrin g!! Hunting is hunting as long as the law is not broken. I drive deer during deer week it's a tradition. And what fellow hunters say it's wrong!! Really?? What's it matter it's all meat!! Ps we don't shoot does!
Always remember
...................You can't eat the horns!!!
njbowhunter
02-18-2011, 12:53 AM
I dont care what anyone else does. All Im saying is if I get a ticket for baiting turkeys on public land because someone dumped bait I didnt know about Im gonna be pissed.
grtwhthunter/fisherman
02-18-2011, 10:22 AM
anybody worried about hunting a baited area for turkeys on public land should do what? correct scout the area u plan to hunt prior to the hunt. kinda like deer hunting. no corn near u within 300 ft of your spot id say youre fine.:)
njbowhunter
02-18-2011, 11:23 AM
anybody worried about hunting a baited area for turkeys on public land should do what? correct scout the area u plan to hunt prior to the hunt. kinda like deer hunting. no corn near u within 300 ft of your spot id say youre fine.:)
Ok So if I have been hunting the same spot for years Your telling me I should go in the day before the season and walk all over the woods and look for bait piles. I dont think so buddy its not the same as deer. Its not illegal to be near bait during deer season. If YOU go out and scout and do your work then you wouldnt need to bait.
robhunt
02-18-2011, 02:52 PM
And the day I scout you could go in and put bait in there 2 min after I leave???
Are you on private or public?? If you are in Winslow area and are on public can u shoot me an email and tell me where u are so I don't sit on your pile!! Not trying to get your spot out of u I just don't want to be near a pile and get a hefty fine for being there.
Topneck
02-18-2011, 04:27 PM
It my be legal to throw corn where ever you want on public land and hunt turkeys over 300 feet from where you place it, but there has been a few questions of ethics brought up. It seems to me that the sport of hunting turkeys consists of well placed decoys, good camoflauge and a developed skill of calling birds in. Baiting to keep some turkeys in area sounds harmless enough, but knowing that other hunters may be hunting the same area and could set up within 300 feet of said bait pile is a question of ethics. As always it should be about the hunt and not the kill.
That being said, none of this will affect me because I don't have a horse in this race, since I neither hunt turkeys nor the area being addressed in this thread.
In conclusion, at the end of the day you still have to live with yourself. So if your goal is the kill and not the hunt spread all the corn you want.
robhunt
02-18-2011, 07:15 PM
its a disgrace for u to only take the breast .......:)
I use all meat and just about all the feathers for flies. I tie all year long.
Also how about you put you bait pile out all you want. I don't have a problem as long as I am not 299 feet from it. But how about you put survey tape around the area in one big circle??
bmarsh625
02-18-2011, 08:36 PM
It is funny how everyone has different ethics. My friend and I go out every spring and refuse to sit somewhere that turkeys frequent to wait for one to show up. We prefer the old "run and gun" technique. The only time I sit in a blind is when I take my now 86 year old grandfather. He can't run around like an idiot with me. To me turkey hunting is wandering or driving around trying to find birds then trying to call one in. I don't want to sit in one spot. Hate it. Just my take on turkey hunting. You other guys can do whatever you want. Bait 'em in. Just don't be mad when some idiot like me comes walking/running through the woods.
robhunt
02-18-2011, 09:28 PM
Bmarsh I am the same!! No blinds!!!! I walk 2.5 miles in. Then sit round 50 yards or more from there roost. Then call. In the morning I sit for 30-40 min then I run and gun. About 15-20 min at each spot. People say patience kills birds but a turkey does not stay in one spot for an hour at a time!! They are always moving. And I love to call them. I use mouth calls, slates and my favorite is a good old cedar box call!!
njbowhunter
02-19-2011, 11:10 AM
Bmarsh you not allowed st stalk either
bluecollar$
02-19-2011, 01:11 PM
Bmarsh you not allowed st stalk either
Where did say anything about stalking??? He said run and gun. Seeing them in a field and setting up and calling is not stalking...
njbowhunter
02-19-2011, 02:15 PM
Where did say anything about stalking??? He said run and gun. Seeing them in a field and setting up and calling is not stalking...
Seeing them and setting up is one thing walking through the woods looking for them is another. If you are walking around through the woods looking for turkeys I would consider that stalking. But even that I dont care I wont get in trouble if he stalks I will get in trouble if he baits.
cc19..aka A-5 Pemberton
02-19-2011, 04:04 PM
These expert deer hunters/turkey hunters have a great sense of right and wrong Darrin. What ever they say is right and anything else is wrong. :D
R & R
02-19-2011, 05:47 PM
Darrin, baiting deer has always been legal if you were not in a tree. You could sit in the pile if you choose to, but baiting turkey is very illegal & ethically wrong on state property.
njbowhunter
02-19-2011, 06:04 PM
These expert deer hunters/turkey hunters have a great sense of right and wrong Darrin. What ever they say is right and anything else is wrong. :D
Dont know who you are referring too but Im far from an expert. What Im saying is not a sense of right and wrong. Its the law. Law says you cant stalk turkey and law says you cant be within 300 feet of bait. you dont have to be an expert to know that.
cc19..aka A-5 Pemberton
02-19-2011, 06:35 PM
I am referring to the self proclaimed experts who are very quick to condemn others on here. From driving deer to baiting turkeys. While I don't agree with baiting turkeys, I am not going to tell someone else not to do it. The law says 300 feet so 300 feet it is. If you don't scout your area and wind up next to a pile of corn and get popped, in my mind that's your fault for not noticing it. What if you don't see the house you aren't 450 feet from. Poor excuse in my book.
It's the same with the cry babies who bait an area for deer that is public and then think that no one else can hunt within a half mile of "their" area.
I certainly don't have a perfect memory, but I do believe the 300 foot rule used to apply to deer back in the day in so far as baiting went. But then again back in the day everyone was baiting the bay for broadbills too. Guess they were a bunch of unethical hunters according to the deer expert ethics committee:D:D. I would have liked to see some of the deer guys on here tell one of the baymen that:rolleyes:!! Those guys could break a 2X4 in half:D.
njbowhunter
02-19-2011, 06:47 PM
I dont understand how you guys keep saying scout your area. I been hunting the same area for a couple years. I know Im not next to a house witch by the way is a lot easier to see then a pile of corn. Why should I have to go walk around and look for bait piles. I would never put someone down for any method they use all I ask is if your going to bait on public ground and you know other guys can get fined for it then fill me in on where not to go. I dont understand when scouting became looking for bait piles. Like someone already stated I could scout for weeks straight and you could walk in 5 minutes later and dump bait now thats my fault. I guess I have to go out in the dark and scout an area all around me before I set up in the morning. None of this has to do with your method of baiting to hunt I could care less.
R & R
02-19-2011, 07:15 PM
So if somebody spots turkeys on state property you say he should bust them up to check if they are being baited?
For deer, I'll say it again, it has not been illegal to sit on your corn pile as long as your feet are on the ground.
cc19..aka A-5 Pemberton
02-19-2011, 08:22 PM
I do see your point njbowhunter. It could happen to me duck hunting. What I am saying though that as hunters, we are observant. You should be able to spot an irregular pattern such as any game bird/animal moving in on bait. As a hunter, the first question that should come to mind when observing any species you seek, is why are they doing that.
This whole argument rings of the new era of the victim mentality if you ask me. When do you or I become responsible for our actions. As hunters it is our responsibility to be sure of our surroundings, our shot path, what we are shooting. I personally see and read things that make me wonder the quality of those in the woods and water. Guys that want to "meet up" to settle a score. People who post a pic asking what it is that they shot.
I just think that if you are hunting it is not my job to give you a map of what is going on around you. Mind you, I agree that how in the world could you know that when you set up in the dark at a given location that you personally scouted the day before, that some else could have dumped bait just after you left. To be honest, if you are square with the CO's that I have encountered, they are square with you. I know that guys are going to come on here and disagree with that statement, but I would argue that they are the ones that should be looking over their shoulder for the man anyway:D.
R & R
02-19-2011, 08:56 PM
The victim mentality would be the reason this guy wants to bait. Everybody else has turkeys but I don't .
bmarsh625
02-20-2011, 08:56 AM
stalking.............seriously....... I guess somebody never walked through the woods. Stopped... then called. Walk a few hundred yards futher... stop and call. That not stalking....... Anyway. My whole point was that I won't do certain things like sit in a blind all day for a turkey. To me it's dumb. However, you can do whatever you want. I don't care what other people do unless they break the law. That's it....... plain and simple.
grtwhthunter/fisherman
02-20-2011, 11:16 AM
ok ill bite rrn. if you read the thread from beginning to end (everyone) i was gonna use the corn to hold turkeys in an area. after the first couple of weeks which i hunt with a blind and calls. i have gotten a turkey every year i won a permit. but as the season rolls along and it gets hot and u see the same guys driving piece to piece the turkeys dont respond .the pile was for later in the month after first one is harvested.as far as scouting yea u scout the area u will b hunting ,just like deer and yes as far as deer go.if u scout and find a pile dont you look elsewhere? i do. and i wouldnt b putting bait out night before season. it would b there a couple weeks before ,remember to keep them in area is all. if u ever seen piles turkeys r in youll see a massive amount of grnd tore up. so if you scout where u plan to set up in a couple days youll see a giant tore up piece of woods.(dont set up there ).like mentioned to each his own. my pile will not b in winslow fellas or blue bell rd. but i will b there first week if i draw permit.:) everyone chill .lol and enjoy YOURE style of hunting.:wave:see the blind and decoys thanx
hunt4life
02-20-2011, 07:11 PM
Wow!..reading this thread exhausted me! :(...Heres my 2 cents....everyone be safe, enjoy themelves, and just abide by the basic laws!...if you happen to stumble upon someones bait pile, just back off and dont worry about it! We shouldnt be judging each others plan to keep the birds in the area!:naughty:
Jerseybuck
02-20-2011, 10:40 PM
Personally, I use crickets to keep them in the area. So if you guys hear any crickets when your setting up, get away from my bait pile!
robhunt
02-20-2011, 11:24 PM
i use tweety birds lol
i prefer all camo with no blind! i think it is more of a challenge with trying to call them to you when you are in the open under a tree with a call in your hand. i like box and slate calls the most.
bmarsh625
02-21-2011, 06:28 PM
Can't talk about doing that on here, Rob. People will think you are "stalking" turkeys. :)
robhunt
02-21-2011, 06:48 PM
i have never stalked. that is a very scary thing.i do not stalk. i have heard so many stories about that on tv and by other friends.
sorry if that offended anybody or if i sounded like i came off the wrong way.
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