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buckmaster821
06-24-2010, 07:42 PM
i have a question on which broad heads i should be using. i have been using the three blade trophy ridge meat seekers. shot two deer and was not able to retrieve/find them:( my brother has used the two blade rage broad head. i dont know if i should stick with the trophy ridge meet seekers or get new ones. any opinions? they are greatly appreciated thanks
Ole 20 Point
06-24-2010, 09:26 PM
JMHO but...
90% of the equation is making the best shot you can.
5% is broadhead preference
5% is the braodhead itself
(switch the %'s around any way ya'll want but the first one will always matter most!)
No matter what braodhead choice you make, from time to time one of em is gonna get away. And it SUCKS every time.
But when ya lose two and think they might have been decent shots, I'd agree it's likely time to change.
Personally I don't prefer two blade broadheads...but the key is, it's just a preference not a fact that there's less chance I'd kill a deer with one. I happen to like three blade mechanicals with a wide cut range for just that little extra room for error. :thup:
hunt4life
06-25-2010, 08:16 AM
[quote=Ole 20 Point;44342]JMHO but...
90% of the equation is making the best shot you can.
Absolutely Agree!
buckmaster821
06-25-2010, 03:17 PM
i have been trying. i am putting the arrow right behind the shoulder and they are not passing trough from 25 yards twice. might try three blade rage .
hunt4life
06-25-2010, 04:28 PM
You probably hit the opposite side shoulder blade then?....which is ok as long as you punctured some vitals. Make sure you know your angles. Just a slight angle can mean missing your spot big time! 25 yds is getting far too.
Try and always take a quartering away or broadside shot too. As Ole 20 point said, at this point, get something different...make sure they shoot straight...stay sharp...and youll again gain some confidence in them!..good luck to you!:thup:
upbowhunter
06-25-2010, 07:56 PM
I wouldn"t switch to another mechanical. If you are hitting where you say you are you are making nice shots. How many pounds your shooting, and how well your arrows fly have alot to do with penatration. If your making good shots and still not getting full penatration, dont switch to another mechanical, go to a good fixed blade, and also make sure your bow is in tune and arrows flying straight. Now is a good time to have your bow looked over, tuned if necasary, may also be time to up poundage if your a young guy and getting stronger. Use the time now in summer to make sure your bow is set up to blow through a deers rib cage, remember it takes more energy to shoot thru a watermellon than a deers rig cage! (if no shoulder or back bone are hit)
njbowhunter
06-25-2010, 09:21 PM
Sounds like you have a lot more going on then the broadhead. That being said I love the 2 blade rage. I shoot a 65lb bow some times I pass through sometime I dont. There is a lot more to the shot then just getting the arrow to pass through
ACEarcher
06-27-2010, 11:22 PM
I'm going to change this year. Heard a lot of great things about the slick tricks. Thinking of either the magnum or the grizz.
I know what your saying. I don't know if wasp changed something in their line, but a sudden I started to have problems with them. Not shooting them, but their preformance when encountering a game animal. They just where not doing the damage they should be doing. With a very hard earned lesson I stopped using them.
Tenpointrack
06-28-2010, 09:16 AM
My advice to you would be, if you don't already, go buy yourself some life size deer paper targets that show the anatomy of the animal...you will see where the leg and shoulder bones sit on the animal. Shoot that for a bit and then move to a 3D target once you better understand the anatomy. I think both shots ,although you thought they hit behind the front leg, must of hit either leg or shoulder bone and did not penetrate any vitals...I would be curious to what type of blood you found? lots or Little? dark or bright red?
Any arrow that penetrates a deers vitals cavity is going to kill it...doesn't have to go threw.
connd
06-28-2010, 02:58 PM
me and my father have been shooting three blade muzzys for along time now. we only have one deer we were unable to locate in the past 15 yrs. I have seen the back bone cut in half and a shoulder blown apart and the arrow still penetrated the exit side. i know some people say the dont fly accurate we have never had that problem. as long as the keep making them ill never change
DEERSLAYER MQ-32
06-29-2010, 08:55 PM
i'm going to try Grim Reapers this year, always here great things about them. If i get the chance to use them, i will put the results on here. Good luck with your choice.
buckmaster821
06-29-2010, 09:06 PM
thanks . i think I'm going to go with the three blade rage they have a get your game or your money back quarante . they must be really confident in there broad heads if they are doing this.
Buck Tales
07-06-2010, 06:19 AM
I like the 2 blade rage and have not lost a deer yet since I changed to them. I did have a bad shot 2 seasons ago, which is going to happen sooner or later to most of us, and the rage did such a good job I was able to locate the deer the next morning. I have used all types of broad heads over the years from old bear heads to muzzy and the shot placement was the key to every shot. If the shot hit where it was supposed to, dead deer. If it didn't, then the broad head wasn't to blame for not locating the game. Practice practice practice, and get some rage broad heads.:D
bobmetzg
08-02-2010, 12:37 PM
shoot whatever broadhead that goes straight
ropaque
08-02-2010, 10:35 PM
i have heard good things about the new nap 2 blade bloodrunner. hybrid broadhead, the best of both worlds? well see im gonna give em a shot this year.
I just cruised through these responses so if someone hit on this already I apologize.
There are a number of reasons to not get a clean pass through. There are women and kids who shoot low poundage and get a pass through. So weight is not an issues but you do need to watch what head you do use. Mechanical's are no good for low poundage bows. You need a SHARP cut on impact head.
Next is if you hit bone, enough said on that.
Then you have arrow flight. This might insult you, but you are using mechanicals and they are perfectly made for poor arrow flight. You can set your pins to shoot field points and mechanicals all day.
You need that arrow to fly as true as possible to go as smoothly through that deer as possible. When you hit the side of any target, not just deer, with an arrow with poor flight you will get a whipping action and that will kill the momentum of the arrow and it will not pass through cleanly.
There are some very poor designed broadheads on the market that just wont fly consistantly. But if you have a properly tuned bow it will shoot ANY quality broadhead on the market. If you have it tuned right you have the luxury to purchase whatever broadhead you wish.
This is purely my opinion, take what you will from it. Mechanicals, pendulums, wisker bisquits, type products are growing more and more popular because they give the illusion that a poorly tuned bow is shooting well.
Hunters are having less time to tune their bows so this is what you buy.
You can go on ANY forum and it it flooded with archers complaining about this same problem you have, and many other that all come back to taking time and understanding a properly tuned bow.
I have a buddy who shoots carbon arrows and HEAVY poundage. He has never had a pass through.
CaptBigGame
09-02-2010, 10:02 PM
Trusty old 3 blade Muzzy does the trick.
DeDXT
09-03-2010, 10:25 PM
i just put a 150lb doe down tonight with grim reapers. i have never lost a deer with them. i shoot a mathews dxt with 68lbs of draw at 28in. i have blown out the shoulders and always get a clean pass through. i even have a reaper that has gone through 8 deer and is still good. I disassemble clean and reassemble them. as long as they are sharp and the shot goes through the vitals you are ok. OHH i shoot the 100 grain razor cut reapers.
timbouy
09-03-2010, 10:47 PM
Tune your bow and wait for the shot.There is no need to rush a poor shot.
hoytman63
10-10-2010, 08:10 PM
I've been shooting rage 3 blades for 4 years now , shot 9 deer with them everyone's been a pass throught and haven't lost a deer most didn't go more then 50 yards . Great blood trails and entrance and exit holes are amazing .
Pass It On
10-13-2010, 09:52 PM
i have a question on which broad heads i should be using. i have been using the three blade trophy ridge meat seekers. shot two deer and was not able to retrieve/find them:( my brother has used the two blade rage broad head. i dont know if i should stick with the trophy ridge meet seekers or get new ones. any opinions? they are greatly appreciated thanks
Crimson Talon 6 blade by Mid Atlantic Archery:thup:
wolfie2nd
10-14-2010, 12:58 PM
I wouldn"t switch to another mechanical. If you are hitting where you say you are you are making nice shots. How many pounds your shooting, and how well your arrows fly have alot to do with penatration. If your making good shots and still not getting full penatration, dont switch to another mechanical, go to a good fixed blade, and also make sure your bow is in tune and arrows flying straight. Now is a good time to have your bow looked over, tuned if necasary, may also be time to up poundage if your a young guy and getting stronger. Use the time now in summer to make sure your bow is set up to blow through a deers rib cage, remember it takes more energy to shoot thru a watermellon than a deers rig cage! (if no shoulder or back bone are hit)
The draw weight on your bow is not as important as you may think. I shoot a 47# Black Widow recurve and have pass throughs all the time. The most important thing you can do is make sure your gear is tuned and practice practice practice . Just because you have sights does not mean you will still have good form. if your form goes to hell so will your shooting.you must always be confident and have respect for the animal you are harvesting.
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