I bought a rifle today.

[DoOver]

I put money down a Model 700 Remington in 7mm with a Redfield widefield scope. I'm looking for a deer rifle that I can use on yotes. Can some one here tell me about this gun?
Thanks
Brain

[BarnesX.308]

Are you talking about the 7mm Remington Magnum. Great all around caliber for coyote to elk.

The Model 700 is a good quality gun, too. You should be pretty happy.

[DoOver]

It looks like it's in excellent shape. It has a check peice and nice knarling on the stock. I have never owned a bolt action before and I like how slim this rifle is. The man said it runs good on a 170 grain bullet.
Brian

[Wicked Deep Stix]

there is about a million factory loads for 7mm rem mag so finding the right one shouldn't an issue. They are the 30-06 of the magnum calibers

[BarnesX.308]

The man said it runs good on a 170 grain bullet.

170 grains is way too heavy for the 7mm Magnum in my opinion. I would use a 140-150 for deer size game and a 160 for bear, elk and moose.

170gr is heavier than needed and that long bullet takes up powder space and makes it inefficient.

[WoodsHunter]

In my Rem.700 in 7m/m it works best with 160gr. bullets. Took a nice Antelope & Mule Deer in Wyoming, great caliber. The 160gr. seem the best because 150gr. a little to fast, the 170gr. a little too slow, like Goldie Locks, 160gr. was just right... "Good Luck" http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/12/12_1_201.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=_undefined) + http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/12/12_9_9.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=_undefined) = http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/16/16_3_160.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=_undefined) Ron :thup:





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[DoOver]

What load would you use for coyotes. Great info. I can't sleep now until I pay this gun off. I like the Goldie locks remark, Woods Hunter. :thup:
Brian

[BarnesX.308]

Here’s what I have handy at my desk. Have a couple reloading manuals at work for bathroom material J Note that the X bullet is not the TSX. It’s the original X bullet. For factory, I would also go with the 120gr for coyote.

Nosler Ballistic Tip, 120 grain:

IMR4350 62gr = 3138fps
66gr = 3348fps

RL22 67gr = 3372
71gr = 3562



Barnes X bullet, 120gr

IMR4350 58.5gr = 3045fps
63.5gr = 3305fps

RL22 68gr = 3209fps
73gr = 3445fps

[DoOver]

3562 fps on a 71 grain bullet. I'm use to the numbers on a 180 grain 30-06. Or a 300 savage. Slow and slower. I hope your Co. doesn't clock you out when you go 10-100.
How is the kick on a 120 grain factory load? I would like my wife to shoot this. She wants to get a coyote or bobcat this year and mount it.
Brian

[BarnesX.308]

3562 fps on a 71 grain bullet

71 grains is the weight of the powder charge. All loads are for 120gr bullets.

I'd say a 120gr 7mm Mag would kick like a 270 Win.

[MattG]

The 7mm is one of the most versatile calibers, good choice. Remington sells a managed recoil - down load for the 7mm mag which throws a 140 at 2750 fps. The bullet is designed for proper expansion and weight retention at that velocity and it does a nice job as the last 3 bucks I killed, none of which went anywhere, would attest to. To me, especially if the barrel is not equiped with a break, it is the ideal load for that gun for whitetail and any lesser game as it makes it more shootable/manageable so in turn you'll be more accurate (most important) and will save your shoulder & barrel at the same time. Your wife will be able to shoot it no problem with this load too, as recoil is substantially reduced. Only for bear or elk would I step it up to max loads- heavier bullets & higher velocites as it's just not needed for deer or lesser game and without a break, shooting full loads out of the 7mm Mag can be tough to handle for some folk. I'd go with the down loads for deer and less, and your shoulder, barrel & accuracy will fair much better for it.

For yotes, which you may be reaching out past 300 yards for, i like Scott's 120 loads, though not as hot as 3500 fps as i'd think at those velocites, it will kick like a mule? For deer 140's are perfect, if using premium bullets you can step up the velocities, as long as you can shoot it (key) with the increased recoil you're going to get from the increased velocity, but for hunting the east where where most shots are within 100 yards and most always less than 200, you don't need it.

[MattG]

Scott, what does your barnes book say for the 7mm with 140's?

[BarnesX.308]

It ranges from about 2700 for the lightest load in the coventional X bullet up to almost 3300 for the hottest load with the moly coated bullet.

What's your favorite powder?

IMR4350 gives:

2960-3201 with the coated bullet with charges from 61.5-66.5 grains.

2766-3022 with the standard X bullets with charges from 54-59 grains.

The TSX is probably right around the same velocity as the coated bullet.

[Barrell]

I put money down a Model 700 Remington in 7mm with a Redfield widefield scope. I'm looking for a deer rifle that I can use on yotes. Can some one here tell me about this gun?
Thanks
Brain
Its a quality gun but way more power then you need for deer or coyotes. Sure it will kill em but the practice sessions can cost ya for ammo. I beleive most high power guns that get sold used is because the former owner couldnt handle the recoil. Take a close look at any 308's or 270's the dealer might also have.

[DoOver]

Great responces here. I enjoy reading about this. I am more of a meat hunter, So a gun to me is more of a tool. But I need to keep my tools sharp.

Thanks,
Brian

[WoodsHunter]

Shoot the rifle with all different type ammo, Winchester, Remington, etc, etc. see which load and what brand works best in that rifle. My opinion, stay with the heavier bullets, 160gr. are great. The reason I say stay with the 160gr. is that you will be able to use it in Penna., Wyoming, Maine. It will work great anywhere. If you shoot a coyote it will work there, I shot two coyote, one with a .243, the other 30.06, neither coyote complain about the caliber. If your going to have one rifle get good with that load, and remember practice, practice, practice...
If you plan on getting more than one rifle than it's time to get into specializing, different caliber for different animals.
My opinion...
Ron
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[WoodsHunter]

Hey DoOver,
I'm not saying that what the other guy's on this site are not correct in what there saying about what caliber to use. I'm assuming that you are not ready to start reloading, if your a meat hunter you won't be out at the range shooting 40 or 50 rounds/session. I've loaded the 7m/m up & down and I can't really see any difference in recoil with 120gr. bullet, or 160gr. bullet. If your not going to go thru a box or two at the range.
I beleive in sticking with one bullet, not jumping from 120gr. for coyote, 170gr. for elk, 150gr. for deer, this will cost you more $$$ And when you start getting around 2000rounds thru the rifle you may start shooting out the barrel, but that's a lot of meat, and you'll need a new rifle by then anyhow. :huh:
My opinion...Ron
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[BuckHammer43]

DoOver

Just noticed the thread. The factory 170 gr will thump you way more than most folks' comfort level.

The nice thing about reloading is that you can load it down to duplicate anything out there.

Pick a light bullet [the suggested 140's are fine], look at the manuals and an energy chart and pick a receipe that will give you 1,000 foot pounds at the max distance you expect to hunt and load 'er up. The recoil will be WAY down, which means it's easier to shoot and hit with.

[HUNTIN-NUT]

I love the 7 mag and always own at least one and usually a Remington 700. Mine flat out shoot tiny little groups. I stick with 160 grain bullets which will handle all deer size game on up to elk. I can't really say for coyote as this would not be my first choice for that but would probably agreed with what has been mentioned in trying some 120 or 140 grain loads. Try several things as not all loads will shoot real well so you will need to find what works best in your particular gun.

[Nanuk]

I 'm not any kind of guru of reloading but has anyone ever seen Stats on .257 roberts or better yet .257 weatherby awesome by any standards !!! I own 7mm weatherby and it has a knick , I shoot 140 grain nosler's thru it works well. Also have a Rem 700 30-06 awesome reliable gun , could go down to 100 grains all the way up to 220 and any point will work PSP , SP , Nosler ect. I shoot 180 REM Safari grade and its deadly accurate with factory loads . I shoot 3 rounds at the begining of every season last 5 years never had a adjustment . Just my 2 cents :)