Shooting cattle

[Barrell]

I was disgusted to watch a ESPN Texas hunt this morning. The guys hunted out of enclosed treestands that looked like houses overlooking fields. The fields had permanent steel framed feeders on timers. But the embarressing thing for me as a hunter was the deer all had numbered ear tags like cattle on a farm. The big buck that was killed was number 25 on his left ear. How far are theese texas ranches gonna go. Thats not hunting unless your a parapelegic to be shooting farm animals.

[Grassy Sound Buck Bagger]

Barrell,
I never got it either. I have even watched shows where they ride around in trucks with high shooting platforms in Texas. I swear they think they are in Africa. :thdown:

GSBB

[ACEarcher]

I like to call them " Whack-A-Pet". It's not even fair. I dunno how they get their rocks off on doing that?

[ub1243]

i think they are numbering the bucks so if they get huge they are darting them and selling the semen. it helps them track their growth better. big money in monster buck semen.

i wouldn't want to hunt a small high fence place. but some of those ranches are huge, the size of our counties. put a fence around salem county and tell me it's like shooting fish in a barrel.

i'm not defending the small "preserves" like the tioga hunting preserve. i've drove past that thing, not very sporting. but the big places, not that bad.
as far as feeders, it's not me to sit over corn piles or feeders. but them sitting on plots is just like us sitting on a bean field.

these guys with shows go were the big racks are. they need to put down a big deer for the camera. if they came to nj or pa it would take them the whole season to get a good buck kill on video. they can go to a place in texas and get it done in a few hunts and have a decent show for mr bill jordan when they come home. some of those guys are good hunters, jordan, waddel, pots, marianda, ritz, but they also need to produce kills. they fill in the illinios, kansas, and canada trips with a few high fence hunts to put some deer on the ground for the camera.
right or wrong, they are all doing what you and i would love to do for a living.

problem is the general public thinks we all hunt like these guys.

[swab1985]

They do it up in canada on big whitetails and caribou, moose and elks, or whatever they have up there....crazy shiat

[maine_sport]

I have to laugh when they walk up on one of these TV bucks shot from a Texas high tower and say "What a hunt! What a hunt!". What hunting?

[theirishjig]

This is not hunting....should call it target shooting

[MEAT-WAGON]

the best is when they miss 2 or 3 times reload then get em and the deer just stand there. target practice they way i see it

[onthehunt]

A buddy of mines dad guides in texas. He has some TV shows that film hunts there. He says the trailing and walk up shots(camera) are histerical. He refuses to be in any of the shots/films. The owner of the ranch takes care of all that. It's all big money and show biz.:o

[ganggreen]

whats the differance in sitting over a feeder or a bait pile?

[ACEarcher]

I don't see no difference there. It's just the distribution of bait that's differnent. I've had some people question me on this one. Whats the difference sitting infront of a pile of apples and sitting infront of a couple apple trees? Or the same could be said for a pile of corn or a corn field?

[MEAT-WAGON]

I don't see no difference there. It's just the distribution of bait that's differnent. I've had some people question me on this one. Whats the difference sitting infront of a pile of apples and sitting infront of a couple apple trees? Or the same could be said for a pile of corn or a corn field?
apple trees get in the way :fight::D

[bobmetzg]

most of the big time hunters you see on tv wait by the phone for that big sighting and off they go. great advertisemant for the hunting lodge and more video footage for the "pro" hunter. ive stopped watching these shows since noel feather got caught shooting penned deer in one state then tagging it with another states tag. a lot of the crap you see on these shows should make most hunters cringe:thdown:

[boatliftman]

high fence it is for peolpe that can't make it happen on free range, i go away on hunts now and then but would never hunt high fence its a joke, i hunt not to kill but the experience of the hunt, i guess some guys do it because its easy, but i think its a joke, soon people will be shooting cows:mad: these people give true hunters a bad name

[QuintonZ29]

It cracks me up to watch these guys making a living on TV, going to ranches or fenced in areas with a guide who points out the one to shoot....they are not hunters they are shooters!!!!!!!!!! theres no hunting involved there just pulling of the trigger...no prep work for stands, no sweating in the hot summer months from hard work, no patterning deer....if you have the money you can shoot anything you want...these people call themselves hunters!! come to my part of NJ Mr. Larry Wysoon and lets see how you rattle up a 180 " deer from the ground and mouth grunts.......its easy to shoot deer who are semi tame....I have more respect for guys who manage their own land, like the Drurry Bros......these guys plant their food plots, scout, hang their own stands and kill deer without guys pointing them out to them.....this is so different than hunting over a bait pile....not the same in no way shape or form......hunting over or near a bait pile in NJ has become a needed tactic anymore....with the small parcels of land and the many hunters in them it is very likely that your neighbors are baiting and so are theres and so on.....if your not lucky enough to be hunting over a food plot then this seems to be the way to go....you have to at least have a bait pile on your property to keep the does interested in coming there which in turn will bring the roaming bucks activity to you during the rut...and hunting over bait piles is not as easy as it sounds...deer become smart to them and visit them during the night because of th human pressure......you cant compare baiting to paying a guy $5,000 to do all the work for you and point out a trophy buck to shoot...no way....

[whatthebuck]

your absolutely right, they are shooters, not hunters. cut these guys in the woods on thier own and they would be totally lost. but that is the only way some of these guys can hunt or should i say pay for meat...lol

[ridgerunnerron]

I've been to texas alot. There's alot of good hunting in texas, some real hunting and some real easy hunting, but yes this is gone too far. On some tx ranches money can really talk.

[bigolebuck]

I enjoy watching Fred Barta hunt!

[QuintonZ29]

Tred Batra does have some good shows....kinda stuck on himself a bit though...

[ACEarcher]

I'm not a big fan of Tred. He's way too cocky. Just watching him gets me mad sometimes. Totally the wrong mentality of hunting in my opinion.

[Blood Trail]

Its all about the dollar bill

[Pagrizz]

I worked at a gun shop in Delaware some years ago and a man came in with a video of a elk hunt he had just gotten back from and asked if we would like to see it .I put the tape in and you see the elk come out of the barn. This is at least a 350 plus elk . The elk did not get out of the corral and he shoots it. He's as proud of that elk as if he had been on a ten day horse back trip.I can not call that hunting,but we could not convince him he had done anything wrong.As far as Tred goes he's not as cocky in person .I have talked to him many times and this is no bull he called me last week wanting me to guide him for moose in Maine if he every gets pulled.If he does get pulled it will not be a canned hunt.

[Sterling Tackle]

Yep, just like shooting farm animals. All the "hunt" is taken out of it. More of just a deer "shoot".