CWP and hunting question

[Grassy Sound Buck Bagger]

All,
In Pennsylvania can you carry a concealed firearm with the appropriate permit from your county while hunting? What is the law/rule on this one? :huh:

GSBB

[ACEarcher]

If you have a CCP from any county you can hunt with a handgun in Pa. But it must be like a cylinder pistol, single or double action. However, you cannot do this in special regs counties (shotgun ONLY). You also cannot carry your concealed carry gun in the woods hunting with you. No matter wat the county, no matter what the season, no matter what the game.

[Grassy Sound Buck Bagger]

ACEarcher,
I was referring to the latter. For the lack of a better term, I wanted to know if you could pack while rifle, shotgun, Muzzleloading hunting. I didn't think you could and my buddy was this past week. I didn't know for sure so I didn't say anything. Weird situation, his dad is a slain Philly cop and I wouldn't want to tell him what he should do or not when it comes to protecting himself if I was not sure. Thanks.:thup:

GSBB

[ACEarcher]

Arms and Ammunition
General Statewide Seasons: (1) Manually operated center-fire rifles, handguns and shotguns with all-lead bullet or ball, or a bullet designed to expand on impact; (2) muzzleloading long gun of any type or caliber; and (3) long, recurve or compound bows with a peak draw weight not less than 35 pounds, and crossbows with a draw weight of not less than 125 pounds, and not more than 200 pounds. Bowhunters must use arrows equipped with broadheads having an outside diameter of at least 7/8-inch with no less than two cutting edges, which shall be in the same plane throughout the length of the cutting surface. Crossbow hunters may use bolts tipped with broadheads of cutting edge design. The use of buckshot is illegal, except in the Southeast Special Regulations Area.
Archery Seasons: Long, recurve and compound bows using arrows tipped with broadheads having an outside diameter of at least 7/8-inch with no less than two cutting edges, which shall be in the same plane throughout the length of the cutting surface. Persons hunting deer in archery seasons may not possess a firearm of any type.
Flintlock Muzzleloader Season: Only single-barrel long-guns with a flintlock ignition system are permitted. The firearm must be an original or reproduction of a gun used prior to 1800, which is .44 caliber or larger, with iron, open "V" or notched sights (fiber-optic inserts are permitted). A flintlock ignition system consists of a hammer containing a naturally-occurring stone which is spring-propelled onto an iron or steel frizzen, which, in turn, creates sparks to ignite a gunpowder. Flintlock hand guns are not permitted. Flintlock muzzleloader hunters may use "any single projectile," including sabots, and mini and maxi balls.
Antlerless Muzzleloader Season: Any long gun muzzleloading firearm, including in-line and percussion sporting arms. Use of scopes and other lawful sighting devices is permitted. Fiber optic inserts may be used.
Special Regulations Areas: (all of Allegheny, Bucks, Chester, Delaware, Montgomery and Philadelphia counties) Muzzleloading long guns, bow and arrow, manual or auto-loading shotguns, 20 gauge or larger, slugs or buckshot only; crossbows and .410 shotguns with slugs. Buckshot may not be used in Allegheny County. Only crossbows, bows and arrows are permitted in Philadelphia County. Crossbows may be used in the two-week statewide concurrent antlered and antlerless deer season.
Unlawful Sporting Arms: Automatic and semi-automatic rifles and handguns; and air or gas-operated rifles and handguns
http://www.pgc.state.pa.us/pgc/cwp/view.asp?a=465&q=151336

I know if he is a cop,sherrif,consible,etc dsn't matter. He can carry 24/7/365, almost anywhere even in the country.

[ihunt49]

If you have a CCP from any county you can hunt with a handgun in Pa. But it must be like a cylinder pistol, single or double action. However, you cannot do this in special regs counties (shotgun ONLY). You also cannot carry your concealed carry gun in the woods hunting with you. No matter wat the county, no matter what the season, no matter what the game.

Several corrections: 1. You do not need a LTCF (License To Carry Firearm) to hunt in PA unless you are carrying concealed.
You can open carry your revolver while legally hunting with it with no LTCF. A Sportsman's Permit or LTCF is required if carrying concealed. A LTCF is required if carrying a loaded handgun in a vehicle.

2. You can carry a handgun - revolver or auto, for personal protection during any hunting season as long as you do not hunt with it unless it is a revolver in the correct WMUs and season. This info is in your PGC booklet you get with your hunting license.

[fatboy]

Several corrections: 1. You do not need a LTCF (License To Carry Firearm) to hunt in PA unless you are carrying concealed.
You can open carry your revolver while legally hunting with it with no LTCF. A Sportsman's Permit or LTCF is required if carrying concealed. A LTCF is required if carrying a loaded handgun in a vehicle.

2. You can carry a handgun - revolver or auto, for personal protection during any hunting season as long as you do not hunt with it unless it is a revolver in the correct WMUs and season. This info is in your PGC booklet you get with your hunting license.


Not sure this is true.

1) when getting my Sportsmans permit I was told directly You can not carry this weapon concealed, not during archery.

2) when i got my liscence to carry I was told must be concealed and hunting regs supercede it.

[ACEarcher]

Yeah thats what I was told. Hunting regs supercede it too. The ppl at the sheriffs office told me that. I haven't seen it in writing, but thats what I was told. A sportsmans permit only allows you to hunt with a hand gun and you must be at least 18 to have that. A permit to carry concealed you can use it to do just that for personal defense and use it to hunt with. You must be 21 to have that. I also remember on the form their was a box for collecting too. I guess incase you walk away for say a gun show with more than one gun.

[fatboy]

Yeah thats what I was told. Hunting regs supercede it too. The ppl at the sheriffs office told me that. I haven't seen it in writing, but thats what I was told. A sportsmans permit only allows you to hunt with a hand gun and you must be at least 18 to have that. A permit to carry concealed you can use it to do just that for personal defense and use it to hunt with. You must be 21 to have that. I also remember on the form their was a box for collecting too. I guess incase you walk away for say a gun show with more than one gun.

Thats exactly who told me. The office in the Doylestown courthouse. I also had to give them up when I moved into Philly.

[Grassy Sound Buck Bagger]

I am now confused:(.

GSBB

[ihunt49]

A correction on my part: You are correct if you hold a Sportsman's Permit, you can not carry during archery as the Sportsman's Permit is only valid for hunting. If you have a LTCF, you can carry during archery season or spotlighting for protection.

Hunting regulations do not supersede firearm laws due to State Preemption as provided by the Uniform Firearms Act.

Thats exactly who told me. The office in the Doylestown courthouse. I also had to give them up when I moved into Philly.

What did you have to give up when you moved to Philly? Your SP or LTCF is good anywhere in the state once it is issued until it expires. You do not have to change the address on it if you move.

If anybody has any firearm law questions, feel free to email me and I can quote you exact wording from the UFA.

[fatboy]

Both because they where issued by the Bucks Co. Sherriff. I was told I was told I had to reapply to the Phila Sherriff's office. This was 15 years ago.

[RUSS0079]

OK, I'll try to settle this!
Your Concealed carry permit does not permit you to hunt with your handgun. It permits you to carry concealed. To hunt with a handgun you need to have the sportsman's permit. Your sportsman permit doesn't permit you to carry concealed. You can only carry a single shot or relvolver. Thus you can not carry a handgun in the bush if its a semi. The only subjects that this law does not apply to is active and retired law enforcement. Sorry we can carry in any state ,wtih what we are qualified for, in the Union thanks to GWB!!!!! I suggest if you have further questions you contact the PA GAME COMMISSION and speak to a warden, not the dag gone receptionist. They don't know squat. Don't want anyone to get jammed up out there. You carry a semi and stopped by the warden, your looking at fines. You get stopped by a cop and you are carrying concealed with a sportsman's permit, your looking at a M1, unless you are comitting a crime, then you got a Felony...
Russ

[ihunt49]

OK, I'll try to settle this!
Your Concealed carry permit does not permit you to hunt with your handgun. It permits you to carry concealed. To hunt with a handgun you need to have the sportsman's permit. Your sportsman permit doesn't permit you to carry concealed. You can only carry a single shot or relvolver. Thus you can not carry a handgun in the bush if its a semi. The only subjects that this law does not apply to is active and retired law enforcement. Sorry we can carry in any state ,wtih what we are qualified for, in the Union thanks to GWB!!!!! I suggest if you have further questions you contact the PA GAME COMMISSION and speak to a warden, not the dag gone receptionist. They don't know squat. Don't want anyone to get jammed up out there. You carry a semi and stopped by the warden, your looking at fines. You get stopped by a cop and you are carrying concealed with a sportsman's permit, your looking at a M1, unless you are comitting a crime, then you got a Felony...
Russ

Sportsman's Permit means you can carry a legal hunting handgun concealed while hunting. No loaded, concealed carry in vehicle.

LTCF means you can hunt and carry any handgun for protection at any time but you still can only hunt with a legal handgun. You can carry loaded and concealed in a vehicle.




fatboy: Both because they where issued by the Bucks Co. Sherriff. I was told I was told I had to reapply to the Phila Sherriff's office. This was 15 years ago.

The law says the LTCF and SP are good till they expire. Philly tries to make their own gun laws but the are violating the UFA when they do. There are several lawsuits against them right now about that and other issues.

[RUSS0079]

IHUNT,
You are the man! I just got a message from the warden and he reiterated what you said. Your permit to carry concealed will cover you while hunting, as long as your carrying a firearm that is authorized to hunt with. If you carry your semi, it must be inconjuction with you concealed carry permit and a legal long gun. The sportsman's permit is for those that want to hunt with handgun, over the age of 18 and don't have the concealed weapons permit. The weapon must be displayed while hunting. Boy all this red tape just to carry my "HOGLEG"
Russ:thup:

[Grassy Sound Buck Bagger]

Russ & Ihunt,
Just so I have this correct. My friend or I could be hunting with a long gun and still carry a loaded Semiauto hand gun concealed as long as we have our county issued state of Pennsylvania CWP?

GSBB

[RUSS0079]

That's what the Chester County Warden told me this morning. As I don't fall into it, because of work, its nice to know that a law abiding citizen can still carry for protection.
Russ

[ihunt49]

Russ & Ihunt,
Just so I have this correct. My friend or I could be hunting with a long gun and still carry a loaded Semiauto hand gun concealed as long as we have our county issued state of Pennsylvania CWP?

GSBB

Yes! And you can also carry it while archery hunting. And it's not a CWP, ( there is no such thing in PA), but a LTCF, (License to Carry A Firearm).

You can also carry your handgun openly which I do most of the time.:D

[ihunt49]

I'll be at IBSP Sunday morning tough guy.