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Reel Nice
09-01-2008, 11:40 PM
Mine is a German Shorthair followed by the chocolate lab..My brother owns the lab and the dog is awsome..My father bred German Shorthairs and they are still my favorite.. What is your favorite dog to hunt behind????

Liv2hunt
09-02-2008, 01:21 AM
I grew up with a german shorthair...great dog. Your second choice is my current 9 month old...Kids got really creative:rolleyes::p and named him Brownie.
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Grassy Sound Buck Bagger
09-02-2008, 09:17 AM
I've only had one and it is my Weimaraner. He is a decent bird dog when I get a chance to get him out. He is more of a family dog but when ever he was in the field he exceled and always found birds.

GSBB

maine_sport
09-02-2008, 10:50 AM
Mine is a German Shorthair followed by the chocolate lab..My brother owns the lab and the dog is awsome..My father bred German Shorthairs and they are still my favorite.. What is your favorite dog to hunt behind????

There are so many great sporting breeds. My favorite is the German Shorthair. I've had many thru the years. Below is my latest (she is 11 years old):

http://www.myfishpix.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_0181.jpg

ACLineman
09-02-2008, 12:08 PM
My best hunting dog was a black lab male.


This is my current partner great hunting dog. Greamn short hair. He is now 10.

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e223/aclineman/Zeke-1.jpg

When he was young it was balls to the wall for this pup and he even broke his leg while hunting ...

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e223/aclineman/brokenleg1.jpg

onthehunt
09-02-2008, 02:11 PM
I got in to deer hunting so heavy after my lab died I haven't bird hunted in years. Now I have a golden Retriever that isn't much for the hunting thing but I have hunted over plenty of both pointers and flushers. They all have good points and bad points but I have to say the best hunting dog in the world was my black lab female named "Bell". May she RIP.

Huntincrazy
09-02-2008, 03:59 PM
I miss my Springer Great Dog.She could run forever.When I was a kid there where tons of birds near where I grew up now it's all stinkin houses:mad:!!I haven't had a gun dog in years.:(

HC:eek:

onthehunt
09-02-2008, 04:08 PM
Your lucky. I never had the chance to hunt wild phesant. Stocked birds only. We had some wild quail,woodcock, and I shot a ruffed grouse in belleplaine state forest once while small game hunting. Always wanted to head out west to hunt but then my dog got old and couldn't quite do it like she used to.

brown bob
09-02-2008, 06:38 PM
always had beagles, over 30 years . 5 was the most i had and rabbit hunted at one time. down to one now as time and places has taken its toll on me. nothing better than the music a few beagles can make. life is good! bb

condition1
09-02-2008, 07:44 PM
I grew up with Beagles. What a great breed. When I got into ducks I went to Labs. Now I have less time and my current Chocolate with all the great credentials is a family dog. I feel bad sometimes, she has the genes but chases balls and frisbies for a living. :)

Reel Nice
09-02-2008, 08:00 PM
Thanks for all the replies

DoubleDown
09-02-2008, 09:23 PM
good looking dogs,but i miss my black lab.will be getting another shortly. this uncovering the boat blind,dragging it threw mud,grabbing the fowl while other fly overhead and dragging the boat back and covering up is getting old.

swab1985
09-02-2008, 11:16 PM
Bear, my five year old yellow lab...my hunting and fishing partner:)

http://www.myfishpix.com/gallery/data/500/bear_resize_3.JPG

onthehunt
09-03-2008, 06:19 PM
Beautiful dog Swab! Why can't dogs live to be 100:huh:

The Wadd
09-03-2008, 06:54 PM
My Best Buddy is Liberty She Is a Vizsla! She will be 2 Next week! She is my 2nd Vizsla! I was Devastated for a Year after i had to put My Venus to
sleep,It took me a year to go for a new pupp! I didnt even hunt! Now for the last 2 years! We Are a Great Team! Me And My Shadow!:thup:

swab1985
09-03-2008, 07:14 PM
Beautiful dog Swab! Why can't dogs live to be 100:huh:


Thanks.... I dont know, but I wish they did... :):)

Bernie M
09-03-2008, 10:51 PM
Bear, my five year old yellow lab...my hunting and fishing partner:)

http://www.myfishpix.com/gallery/data/500/bear_resize_3.JPGThats a good looking lab!!

swab1985
09-04-2008, 11:23 AM
Thanks Bernie, he's a good dog

S0uthernrebel78
09-04-2008, 12:57 PM
Boykin spaniels are great

skmag357
09-04-2008, 01:50 PM
I love hunting with my lab....she is almost 3 now and I think she will do a lot better hunting this year. Last year, I only got her out twice.....only problem is anytime there is a stream or puddle, she will take a few minutes to cool down :)

http://www.myfishpix.com/gallery/data/551/zoeyre1.JPG

EagleEye
09-04-2008, 10:40 PM
I got a Chocolate thinking to train him as a bird dog. Boy was I wrong. He wanted nothing to do with it. Now instead of chasing birds, I chase him everytime he slips out the door. The wife, kids and I love him but I wish he did not like to play "chase me" so much. :D

onthehunt
09-05-2008, 12:24 PM
NICE!!!!Skmag. My golden reteiver since a pup has never had any desire to pick up feathers. Frisbees and balls were his thing. Hates briars and mornings. Not a hunting dog but a well bahaved loyal friend. Wouldn't trade him for anything.:thup:

skmag357
09-05-2008, 04:01 PM
NICE!!!!Skmag. My golden reteiver since a pup has never had any desire to pick up feathers. Frisbees and balls were his thing. Hates briars and mornings. Not a hunting dog but a well bahaved loyal friend. Wouldn't trade him for anything.:thup:

Thanks! She loves to hunt. I started training her when she was 10 weeks old. Started her out on quail and doves and then moved up to phesants. The last few times we have had her out, she catches the stupid pen raised birds and brings them back to us alive:D

onthehunt
09-05-2008, 04:31 PM
HaHa! That's awsome. My old lab caught a couple livies:rolleyes:. She even caught a rabbit while we were pheasant hunting. Worst was the day she caught a squirrel before it could tree itself and that rat bit her bad. She still brought it to us proud as could be, with that squirrel hanging on to her lip. The vets office was interesting when we walked in with our blaze on and brush pants full of blood:nuts:

RUSS0079
09-06-2008, 12:20 PM
German Shorthairs here!!!! I have two now. My female is all black! Not common in the US, but a dime a dozen in Germany. We are breeding her after the Grouse season. Any one interested???? My male is Liver Rohn. Classy hunters with alittle hound in them for the chase.

Both my pointers are excellent grouse dogs. Alot of training but great bloodlines make it sooo much easier. Just my two cents:thup: I would post the pics of them if I could figure it out.. Can guide you through a grouse covert, but this computer is going to drive me crazy.

playinhooky
09-07-2008, 08:55 AM
English Setters! Style and grace.

brantman
09-07-2008, 04:46 PM
english setters on grouse and pheasant beagles for rabbit:thup:

brantman
09-07-2008, 04:48 PM
english setters for birds

RUSS0079
09-07-2008, 05:49 PM
english setters for birds

Brantman,
I'll give you english setters have style but all that hair. Wouldn't work for the grouse coverts I hunt..

bowhunter
09-07-2008, 11:08 PM
mine is my black lab. She is a great dog. I also just got a english springer spanial she is 5 months old and already chasing the feathers:D rather than the ball. Very smart dog and a great nose. Been shooting the blank gun around her now when she sees me grab it she runs to the door:D think she's gonna be a good one

RUSS0079
09-08-2008, 09:39 AM
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. Now I can upload the pics, Look out!!! Here is a picture of one of my German shorthairs and I hunting in Kansas.... OHHHHHHHHHHH I'm gettin birdy!!!!!!!

mtclip
09-08-2008, 05:38 PM
my first birddog gsp Blackridge Angel Daisy JH
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d153/mtclip/P1010037.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d153/mtclip/P1010013-2.jpg

fernnj
09-09-2008, 06:40 AM
German Shorthair

ACEarcher
09-09-2008, 12:28 PM
Maine Sport- Wow your short hair looks almost exactly like mine! I have a 2 yr old male named Ruger. He's a fantastic dog. His nose is like a machine unbelievable! I also have a 7yr old springer male named Jake. He's a great family dog, but WAY to gun shy for the field. Best upland dogs I'd have to say is the German Short Hair Pointer! Following closly by the English Springer Spanial. The best all around hunting dog I would say the Lab. Ever watch a short hair swim? LOL they are not ment for it trust me! Then watch a Lab swim. Big difference! If I knew how to post pics I would do so for ya.

I'll tel ya a lil story how I got my Short hair. We've always had springers and we're part of a group called MAESSR (Mid Atlantic Springer Spainel Rescue). We'll they picked up a dog from a rural WV kill shelter thought to be a springer. Nope, he's a german short hair pointer! How you wonder someone could confuse a springer with a short hair. Well Ruger had mainge bad all around his face. Besides the mainge he had, hook worm, whip worm, skin infections, Bacteria & yeast infections in both ears, he needed teeth pulled (due to an impact fractor), and major mal nutrition. Needless to say he was in bad shape. So I just graduated college and was looking for a great hunting pal. I always had an interest ion short hairs ,but just never persued it. Well one pops up on MAESSR by accident. Funny, my g/f's mother calls his a sign because I was interested in a german short hair. And now Ruger has a great home, tons of game to chase, someone who loves him, and his health. Wouldn't give him up for the world! A truly awsome dog!

Wicked Deep Stix
09-12-2008, 12:46 PM
We hunt over american Britts and english setters. The setters are great in more open country but in the tight cover of woodcock and grouse the britts do better. They are a nice combo together. The britt works in close with the setter a next step out.

all around
09-15-2008, 01:25 PM
german short hair all the way

Blade Runner
09-16-2008, 01:02 PM
Being a duck , goose and upland hunter I am partial to labs, but grew up with beagles. The lab I have now is breed as a pointing lab. I got her from Top Dog Kennels in South Dakota and she was trained for three months by Julie Knutson in Colorado. Last year she was just a puppy and with no real training, she did great, this year we are hoping for even more. Look out, here comes Sammie.

massbaster
09-18-2008, 11:26 PM
ACEarcher- GSP are "versatile" breed meaning feild and water...they have webbed feet. They dont swim as good as a lab does, but Beretta will retrieve Ducks from the boat all day long....


Benelli - Male GWP, hes a little over 1yrs
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/pop_r_master/Benelli.jpg

Beretta - Male GSP, hes 4yrs
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/pop_r_master/DSC01307.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/pop_r_master/Point.jpg

Piper - Female GWP, shes 3yrs
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/pop_r_master/IMG_1428.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/pop_r_master/PiperonPoint.jpg

AND I have 3 sons too....haha my house is nuts!

brittanybend
09-19-2008, 03:08 PM
I have hunted behind Brittanys for the past 20 years. I have been very spoiled ,my first Brittany was a national champion (Thunder) and he could find pheasant in a parking lot.Since then I have accumulated a real tribe that all hunt. I hunt them 2 at atime from Nov to the End of March.The only time that its hectic is during striper season ,hunting Saturdays and fishing Sundays.

CamoRay
09-23-2008, 03:30 AM
Having hunted over english pointers from horseback, german shorthairs, viselas, setters, spanials and retrievers I would have to say that the one all round best dog for both upland and waterfowling would be the black lab......WHY?......English pointers are bred to be far ranging and depending on terrain it takes a horse to keep up and locate them....being such far rangers they have to be rock steady on point and the horse must be steady to shot after you dismount and flush the bird.....that in itself is another problem.....Shorthairs, if not corrected in early training, can get out there too but usually not as far as ep's....They too need to be steady on point.....Viselas and setters tend to work a little closer.....Spanials and retrievers are flushers and can be trained to work within 40 yards of you...These are all great dogs in their element......BUT.....The one thing that separates the retriever from all the others and makes it the best "all round" hunting dog is......FREEZING COLD WATER....if you put any of the other breeds mentioned above in this you can and probably will kill them! ......they are not double coated and even if you get them to go in once they will probably refuse to go again.....(Not that I blame them) ......Sure shorthairs & viselas have webbed paws but they should only be exposed to warmer waters......I'm not knocking chocolates or yellows they are great dogs too but the fact is that the black lab is the predominately bred retriever in the country....AND.....if choosing a puppy to train for hunting (and you do your homework) and are looking at pedigrees of parents and grand parents of "FIELD BRED" ....NOT SHOW BRED...dogs, you just have a larger choice.....I know there are exceptions to everything I"ve said above.....these are just my observations after 54 years of hunting and training......

maine_sport
09-23-2008, 06:41 AM
Having hunted over english pointers from horseback, german shorthairs, viselas, setters, spanials and retrievers I would have to say that the one all round best dog for both upland and waterfowling would be the black lab......WHY?......English pointers are bred to be far ranging and depending on terrain it takes a horse to keep up and locate them....being such far rangers they have to be rock steady on point and the horse must be steady to shot after you dismount and flush the bird.....that in itself is another problem.....Shorthairs, if not corrected in early training, can get out there too but usually not as far as ep's....They too need to be steady on point.....Viselas and setters tend to work a little closer.....Spanials and retrievers are flushers and can be trained to work within 40 yards of you...These are all great dogs in their element......BUT.....The one thing that separates the retriever from all the others and makes it the best "all round" hunting dog is......FREEZING COLD WATER....if you put any of the other breeds mentioned above in this you can and probably will kill them! ......they are not double coated and even if you get them to go in once they will probably refuse to go again.....(Not that I blame them) ......Sure shorthairs & viselas have webbed paws but they should only be exposed to warmer waters......I'm not knocking chocolates or yellows they are great dogs too but the fact is that the black lab is the predominately bred retriever in the country....AND.....if choosing a puppy to train for hunting (and you do your homework) and are looking at pedigrees of parents and grand parents of "FIELD BRED" ....NOT SHOW BRED...dogs, you just have a larger choice.....I know there are exceptions to everything I"ve said above.....these are just my observations after 54 years of hunting and training......

I lived on the NJ beachfront and raised two German shorthairs from puppies there. Both loved swimming in the ocean every week including February. They would retrieve bumpers in the worst of weather. Cold was no problem to either of these dogs. Both dogs would dive under the water and retrieve items from the bottom. The only advantage that the lab has is his size. They can handle ice better.

In the field, no lab will keep up with quality pointing dogs. On the second day labs would be reduced to retrieving shot game.

I love labs; they are terrific if you hunt mostly waterfowl. For all-around hunting, give me a good shorthair.

rbf8489
09-23-2008, 02:30 PM
Labs are my favorite as I mainly hunt waterfowl.

Getting a new chocolate lab in the spring will be my first time owning a dog.

maine_sport
09-23-2008, 02:58 PM
Labs are my favorite as I mainly hunt waterfowl.

Getting a new chocolate lab in the spring will be my first time owning a dog.

My daughter had a chocolate lab that was outstanding. Good luck with yours.

swab1985
09-24-2008, 10:49 AM
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This here dog is half fish...Its imposible to keep him out of the water, he will even lay down in it in the middle of winter like its summer.... I have always owned labs and always will, IMO, they are the most and best versatile hunters

Blade Runner
09-24-2008, 02:00 PM
My first lab, a black female, was bred for waterfowl, but she pointed naturally. My second lab, a yellow female, is bred as a pointing lab and I can say she hunts waterfowl with the best of them, warm, cold, ice doesn't matter. This passed January I sent her out to be trained by Julie Knutson at Gun Club Labs in Colorado. Sammie has down well, she was certified as a pointing lab her first trial out and I can't wait to hunt her this year, being her first real season of waterfowl and upland birds.

Setterman
09-26-2008, 12:55 AM
I chose an English Setter. My friends with the GSP's, Brittany's and Springers that I've hunted with all asked me "why"? Since I was born, there was always an English Setter or two in our household. My father trained them, ran them in field trails, his brother and his uncle all had English Setters. Every family hunting trip always included four or five Setters. Growing up as kids we learned about and cared for litters and witnessed the miracle of new puppy life. It seemed like the dog for me to get since I was familiar with their style, temperment, etc. Besides, it tickled my father's fancy since his last dog had died and he claimed he was too old to get another and train one, so it was nice to have another around.

I think all breeds are great, and upland hunting wouldn't be upland hunting without them, and that's why I go with a dog; to see them work and revel in their inbred capabilities. My current dog's name is Sam. He's 6 now. I started him on pigeons then progressed to chukars and quail and by the time he was a year old he showed instinct and a birdy nose.

I took him to Maine when he was 17 months old and after a week of getting snootfuls of wild grouse and woodcock and pointing them, I knew he was going to be special.

maine_sport
09-26-2008, 08:14 AM
I chose an English Setter. My friends with the GSP's, Brittany's and Springers that I've hunted with all asked me "why"?

English Setters were trained bird dogs in England more than 400 years ago.
There are many in your camp. Setters make excellent bird dogs as well as a great companion. Sounds like you have a good one.

pinecone
09-26-2008, 09:14 AM
I am looking for a german shorthair pointer pup to get started. I have 2 labs which i retired last year due to age. I no longer do waterfowl so i'm looking for a field dog. Any help would be appreciated thanks!:thup:

Setterman
09-27-2008, 09:06 PM
Thanks. I'm looking forward to this upcoming season.

chazoz
10-05-2008, 11:55 PM
gotta love my choc lab and pointer...they are my babies man lol

Bird Boy
10-17-2008, 05:14 PM
i have two brittanys, odi and binx. i love them to death and they are awesome hunters.http://www.thebuckbarn.com/forum/image.php?u=584&dateline=1223858729&type=profile

wildbillfish2
10-29-2008, 10:00 PM
Beagle, beagle, beagle. Walker hounds or walker/beagle mix for deer; straight beagle for rabbits. Nothing like the sound of beagles (even a single one) in the woods on a chase.

Bill

Makoman
10-30-2008, 11:34 PM
I have had 2 English setters, 1 Brittany and 4 beagles. They were all good dogs but the beagles were the best. I killed more pheasants off the beagles than the bird dogs and the sound of a brace of beagles running a cottontail just can't be beat. I am without a hunting dog now but, if I ever have another, it will definitely be a beagle.

Darrin Greene
11-01-2008, 09:42 AM
I have a pair of labs but woul dhave the RIGHT chesapeake bay rtvr for hunting, if I would afford the professional training. I have labs because I can train them effectively myself.

pawoods
11-09-2008, 08:42 PM
Vizsla is the greatest dog out there........

Mattymo456
11-23-2008, 08:57 AM
Here are my 2 Vizslas. Oldest is 3yrs. Youngest is 5mos now. (8 weeks in picture). Going to breed the youngest one in a couple of years.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm311/mattymo456/P1010016.jpg
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm311/mattymo456/P1010092.jpg

The Wadd
11-24-2008, 06:41 AM
I wouldnt want to Be without my Liberty!

willsj
11-25-2008, 02:11 PM
Here's my viszla. He's only 5 months old, can't wait to hunt over him next year. His daddy is a champion field trial pointer. All I want is a good hunting buddy!

He caught, and brought to me, a wounded quail walking through Peaslee on Sunday and found another 4 dead ones, also flushed a woodcock:)

Just have to get him used to the gun. Fired some blanks over him, and so far so good! Don't want to rush it.

431

jonny one shot
11-30-2008, 08:51 PM
i have a black lab for duck and a english springer spanial for pheasant:D

lbdc34
11-30-2008, 09:14 PM
I have a crazy:eek: 2yr old chocolate. He is my first dog so I have made plenty of mistakes trying to train him myself but luckly he has lots of natural ability and drive. My brother has a ten year old black lab that we still hunt with all the time. He was swimming after ducks yesterday morning when it was 26 out with thin ice starting to form on the pond. My only experiences are with labs but I would like to get a GSP some day.

Esetterman
02-22-2009, 12:59 PM
English setters!

Cat
02-22-2009, 09:29 PM
I'm now am particle to Ryman English Setters due to classic points with style unlike many pointing breeds with there beautiful long hair that blows in the breeze.

I had a golden female that was just an incredable water dog and upland dog flusher and she would hunt anything. I had 10 great years out of her.

This dog I have now I have been very blessed with I got from WV Hot Point Kennels.

FordPSD97
03-30-2009, 08:01 AM
I never hunted with dogs in NJ. I hunt up in Maine alot for snowshoe with the beagles, run bear with the walkers and blue ticks. Each one is awesome. I know there are beagle clubs around here but i don't think i want to chance letting dogs run around on the wma's in this godforesaken state.

Buck Shad
03-30-2009, 03:11 PM
I grew up with Chessy's and labs.
I have great memories of all my girls, the chessy for her " Don't quit attitude"
and my labs for there for there "watch me show you where the birds are stupid"...lol I :bow: TO THEM ALL!!

Esetterman
03-30-2009, 05:32 PM
I like the style and look of the setter and their calm laid back attitude

Setterman
03-31-2009, 12:29 AM
Does "muddy" English Setter count? (taken today)

http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/ss225/setters4life/IMG00149.jpg

Esetterman
03-31-2009, 03:10 AM
lab or setter haha i got a setter that will do it all ...

Esetterman
03-31-2009, 03:11 AM
setterman, nice pic by the way you have a good looking dog

Setterman
03-31-2009, 07:49 AM
Thanks Esetterman.

Yesterday was our 55th day out since the Fall 2008 season started back on Oct. 1st. We hunted in NY/NJ only this year, and I was lucky to get out a lot. He gets to hunt a lot and he knows what he's doing out there. I'm happy just to be able to spend that much time afield. I'm heading out this morning to catch the last of the NY semi-wild season on our club land. Been finding a lot of woodcock since February too. No more grouse though. Where that picture was taken we haven't seen grouse since 2006.

tool box
04-30-2009, 01:57 PM
My yellow lab Lola. She is 4 wouldn't think of going with out her. Pretty good fishing partner too

Lt. Willy
05-23-2009, 06:41 PM
I have hunted over many good dogs over the years, loved the experience of each and every one of them. It was a privilege.
My first owned and self trained dog was a English Springer. The most dedicated hard hunting dog out there. trained well thanks to some help from friends I hunted everything with that dog, ducks all winter, pheasants grouse quail. I hunted rabbits with him. He did it all and within gun range(mine, close) and all my bird hunting friends that hunted with me said he was the most incredible dog they ever hunted with.
Alas as he got a few years older he developed what is called spaniel rage, possessive type of thing and would snap at the wife and kids if they tried to take something away he should not have. He recognized only me as the boss period. He ended up one day biting my wife on the hand and I had to give him up. A good friend who is older, retired and hunts every day took him and is hunting him every day.
After him I ended up with two male American Britts and could not be happier. One is seven now and the other is four. They are the most incredible hunting dogs on everything, small, easy to transport and care for and the noses on these guys always freaks me out. Rock solid steady and never lose a bird no matter where he goes. I have not hunted waterfowl with them though I believe I could in warmer temps as both love retrieving from water but it is not what they were bred for. The younger of the two loves grouse and I rarely go into the woods for them without getting shots on a good points with him especially.
Love em
I love them all, my friends have GSP's Wirehairs, Labs, setters, pointers. Closest thing to a heaven, a walk in the grouse woods with a good dog.

Setterman
05-23-2009, 09:30 PM
Closest thing to a heaven, a walk in the grouse woods with a good dog.

I agree.

Esetterman
05-24-2009, 08:46 AM
setterman, that says it all

RUSS0079
05-24-2009, 09:12 PM
Give me a German Shorthaired Pointer and a quick handling 20 gauge, grouse covert and I'm happy until the Lord calls me home!

Esetterman
05-25-2009, 01:56 AM
Russ, are you aware that german short hairs dont even have tails!:razz:

RUSS0079
05-29-2009, 08:16 AM
Russ, are you aware that german short hairs dont even have tails!:razz:

That shows you how much you know, Jesse! They have tails, we just cut them off so that someone won't mistake the superior German Lines for some bastardized version of an English POINTER! Plus we don't need Fru Fru SWISHY tails in the Grouse Woods In PA. We're out there to kill stuff, Not drink Brandy and smoke cigars and talk about days with 120 flushes! you lucky SOB!

Esetterman
05-30-2009, 08:34 AM
this is a tail!
http://www.thebuckbarn.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=49&pictureid=202

RUSS0079
06-01-2009, 06:00 AM
nice!

Setterman
06-01-2009, 09:39 AM
That is a pretty looking tail Esetterman. My Sam seems to have always had the "hook". (Excuse the quality, these are cellphone pics this year):

http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/ss225/setters4life/021509point.jpg
http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/ss225/setters4life/031509pointinghenpheasant.jpg

Esetterman
06-01-2009, 06:14 PM
NICE pics Setterman! does your dog have some rymans in him i have noticed them lines have that "hook" in them my dog usually does not have that when hes locked on a bird more like this (also excuse pic quality)
http://www.thebuckbarn.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=49&pictureid=198

Setterman
06-01-2009, 08:36 PM
Some, yes. But he's not big like Ryman's like out of Old Hemlock or Pinecoble or the older Grouse Ridge strains. His weight fluctuates from 52-55 lbs.

Esetterman
06-01-2009, 08:59 PM
Setterman, mine is much smaller than yours mine is anywere from 38-42 lb, i wanted a little bigger one he just didnt get as big as i thought he would ... his father was about 55 lb, mother was small though.

Setterman
06-01-2009, 09:13 PM
Isn't your Setter a Llewellin? Those are pretty purpose-built dogs and tend to run small from what I've seen. My friend has a Llewellin out of Virginia and this female can't weigh 35 lbs. soaking wet. We had a Ryman Setter out of Grouse Ridge that went 80-85 lbs. in his prime back in the late 60's. My Dad used to call him the pony. I've heard and read of some from those Ryman and Old Hemlock strains that went over 100 lbs. if that's to be believed.

Setterman
06-01-2009, 09:23 PM
There are still Setters out there that don't point with such an upright "field trial" tail:

http://www.beltonenglishsetter.com/zakpointing.jpg

Esetterman
06-01-2009, 10:52 PM
your right my dads dont have a 12 oclock tail, my last one did not either but i was able to train him to do it, the one i have now was natural...

Setterman
06-01-2009, 11:28 PM
To many, that style is important. To adhere to field trialing standards sorta dictates that look. Maybe I'm a minimalist but I am happy the dog hunts for me, finds birds, holds steady and retrieves. I can't really ask for more.

Esetterman
06-02-2009, 11:39 AM
its something i like in a dog, besides the stylish looks it does have a good function, i hunt a lot of ferns with him and to be able to see his tail helps out a lot sometimes all you can see is the tip of his tail in them things, same in tall grasses pheasant hunting, there has been many times where i knew the dog was stopped on point and the cover was so thick all i seen was his tail sticking up, dont get me wrong im happy with him if he does like you said listens hunts holds and retrieves, hell im happy if they will just find them dead (when i actually hit them).

RUSS0079
07-07-2009, 12:51 PM
Well, Jesse, with 120 flush days, how could you not hit them! Now here in Pa if we have 10 flush days and you kill a bird, you're doing quite good! Back at ya!

Esetterman
07-07-2009, 09:37 PM
120 flush days show me that place!

RUSS0079
07-09-2009, 08:05 AM
I thought that's what you said it was like back home, the one day we talked?:confused: My bad! Either way Briar is close to having her pups, so I'm on waiting duty!
Russ

fishline
09-20-2009, 09:09 PM
the best dog

Esetterman
09-20-2009, 09:24 PM
thats what your opinion

timbouy
09-21-2009, 10:24 PM
http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs044.snc1/4407_1067968625625_1418349975_30160938_3472553_n.j pg

Setterman
09-21-2009, 11:44 PM
Nice picture there. Nothing like a brace of bird dogs pointing.

FLDBRED
09-23-2009, 09:27 AM
For me it is the Springer Spaniel,always was always will be.:)

Esetterman
09-27-2009, 03:15 AM
http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af147/jessejames2323/setter.jpg?t=1254032053

fishline sorry didnt mean to be rude this picture was sopposed to show up as a joke with that statement

RUSS0079
09-27-2009, 08:42 AM
I don't know Gus looks like he did pretty darn good that day! Great pics guys. Now lets be nice.
Russ